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 Post subject: Spray is over, ONE final request to all of you
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:22 pm 
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I am sitting here shaking and crying.

This stupid county I live in is going to send up planes for aerial sprayings of insecticides. They claim this is to prevent W. Nile Virus.

The planes fly low right over our roof tops with the insecticides, just like crop dusters...I am so scared of the neurotoxin effects.

They will spray 3 night in a ROW! They say the spray dries quickly and people should only wash down toys, or sidewalks, etc around their houses if they would like to...of course they make it sound so benign.

They sprayed 3 years ago and six months after they sprayed I became sick...coincidence? I don't know? It lowers immunity, has neuro toxins. I just know my nervous system has been through enough.

Not one person has been reported to have W. Nile here, not one! Remember the Under Our Skin video 1000 cases nationwide per year? Is this a blatant cover up to spray for ticks? Are they crazy? What are they doing?

This invisible stuff will be all over our house, our cars, our mailboxes our lawns where my dogs walk (I am turning on the sprinklers when they fly over to "wash" the lawns) sidewalks....everywhere, trees...for up to 60 days.

I cannot be consoled right now...I am so sick about this I can't tell you...please pray this doesn't harm my CNS anymore than it is already - Dear God.

I am emailing my LLMD.

3 NIGHTS NOT ONE, 3 NIGHTS IN A ROW starting Wednesday...I am terrified for me and my families future.

I am just sobbing and fearful, shaking and crying I am so afraid this will slam my immune system (all ingredients in this spray lower immunity are nuerotoxins and cause cancer)....please pray for us...please pray!

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT PRAYERS NEEDED!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:25 pm 
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Oh Dana, I am so sorry! I absolutely hate insecticides.

I think it's outrageous that they can just spray you like that.

I'm going to have a prayer marathon tonight. I totally don't blame you for being so upset.


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 Post subject: Re: URGENT PRAYERS NEEDED!
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Thank you Molly - please ask others (who don't even know us to pray)....I don't know what to do, I am so shaken up by this.

3 years ago people were so upset about this they held rallies to stop it...they got judges involved...the planes flew anyway, nothing can stop this governmental "entity" from doing this.

The health department is behind them, the Governor...what about all the people with CNS diseases?

I went to one rally 3 years ago and one woman was yelling her whole family was sick from the spray....they kept flying anyway...

They only interview family members (if they can find any) of WNV and they say how great this is!! The only thing great is that it will kill ticks...other than that I pray to God it doesn't kill me.

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT PRAYERS NEEDED!
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They are lying to the public in todays newspaper and keep saying the spray is made up of a harmless substance - crysthanthemums. No need to bring pets in!!! Uh, yeah if you want your pet poisoned!

THIS IS A LIE! The have to by law post the label online. The "crysthanthemums' are only 6% of the mixture - the other 94% are neurotoxins.

The idea of the spray is the paralyze the nervous system of the mosquito. We do not have ONE reported case of WNV in the entire state of CA.

PRAY FOR WIND THEY CANNOT SPRAY IF WINDS ARE 10MPH OR HIGHER ...WIND IS WHAT WE NEED NIGHT AFTER NIGHT FOR THE NEXT 2 MONTHS OR THEY WILL KEEP TRYING - WIND WILL EVENTUALLY FORCE THEM TO CANCEL.

I am going to keep bumping this post until this is over or they cancel - prayers are needed desperately!

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT PRAYERS NEEDED!
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This really upsets me.

I told my husband about it last night and told him you were freaking out. I said "you know what I would be doing right now if this happened to us, right" He just shuttered.

Once when we went to Mexico years ago we were actually sprayed on an airplane! Everyone was freaking out. They literally sprayed us for bugs!

I will definately pass this along for prayers.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:58 am 
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Molly, they sprayed inside the plane???? What in the world???

I can't even express my fear, I am dazed with fear, dazed, shaky.

3 nights Molly, 3 in a row! I have looked up each chemical compound now, it is very scary and with my CNS being the most effected by LD....I pray to God that this doesn't cause further pain of aggravation to my body.

I am sick about this...how can they do this to us? Our government is unreal.

Like I said this is meant to paralyze the nervous system of the bug...what will it do to me?

Still no response from my LLMD - I wonder if he will respond, he may not want to upset me further with the truth.

Pray for our protection first, but like I said...pray for wind...wind, wind, wind!!!! Every night!!

The spraying is suppose to start Wednesday night.

PRAY THAT I ALSO HAVE PEACE - This is making me hurt more.

I need the scripture from Psalms - something about nothing will come near or harm my home???? I am too nervous to think straight.

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT PRAYERS NEEDED!
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Dana, this is totally insaine! our gov't is a joke. we don't have a say in anything. they like us to think we do, but when it comes down to it, we don't.

If this stuff is expected to kill mosquitos and ticks, how is it not expected to cause problems for other living things?

you will all be in my prayers. big time.

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Hi, Dana!! You are looking for PSALM 91. It's terrific!! Perfect for this situation you are finding yourself in.

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Hi Dana,

I am very sorry to hear this. Esp. the part where they boast only a small percentage of 'safe' pest control and if they are omitting the whole picture. I remember when we lived in the country and the farmer would spray the field behind our home. We were surrounded by acreage. I would intecept and tell him he could not do it in the field behind us, particularly b/c of the wind factor. I remember how I felt at just being near the equipment. I do not want to add to your fear; we have no where to turn but to the Lord for His ultimate protection and movement in a situation like this and to do just what you are planning to water it down and to just be wise about where you need to be in the midst of this.

I am praying for that wind to rise up and for the word to get out so that voices can be hopefully heard and to give you time to consider a plan to step away for a few days until this can pass if they do spray. Please try to leave and stay with family, if so.

I called to pray with you.

Jeremiah 7:9-11
9 " 'Will you steal and murder, commit adultery and perjury, burn incense to Baal and follow other gods you have not known, 10 and then come and stand before me in this house, which bears my Name, and say, "We are safe"-safe to do all these detestable things? 11 Has this house, which bears my Name, become a den of robbers to you? But I have been watching! declares the LORD.

This makes me think of the verse in scripture that says that no man makes a fool of God. Your body is His temple; your home is His. He is watching what happens in your lives, in you, to you and will work through you to provide a way out.

Proverbs 3:32-34

33 The LORD's curse is on the house of the wicked,
but he blesses the home of the righteous.

34 He mocks proud mockers
but gives grace to the humble

His righteousness was credited to you. He is watching over you and protecting you. Do what you can to get out so that you are protected from any harm. I think the sprinkler idea is brilliant. Could you call the fire department to spray down your home from the roof down, as a service call once a day for 3 days in a row??

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT PRAYERS NEEDED!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:33 pm 
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Hi Jaime, Nancy, Molly, Diana...

I just took my dogs for a walk because I plan to hide out after they spray for awhile. Thanks for the scripture I was looking for Nancy.

Jaime this will answer your question.

I called the health department & I called vector control and spoke w/the manager. They are very well trained to make you believe this is extremely safe. They said Raid is much more toxic (I don't use Raid) they said that many flea and tick killers we put on our dogs are more dangerous...I don't use the ones they named.

They double talk. They said it will be a mist that dries before it hits the ground and it is quickly neutralized by water and sunshine. Then I asked will it kill ticks and the manager said "yes"....how could it? It is suppose to vaporize before ever hitting the ground.

I told him I have a CNS disorder similar to MS (I didn't want to talk Lyme) I then asked "What would you tell your wife with a PAINFUL nervous system disorder to do". He said, "Close the doors and windows, stay indoors during the application and after they pass over it is safe to open doors and windows etc." LIAR!!!

There is an amazing website I came across you can look up chemicals...I looked up all 5 in the mixture they will use. 4 are nuerotoxins, I told him this, he said "No, no...this is diluted to the point that 4 tablespoons of actual chemical is distributed per acre". I responded "Well if that is the case and it so mild, what is the point?" He couldn't answer, he just said, "Yeah, I know..but it works well at killing mosquitoes". AND THAT IS A LIE!! Studies from the last spray, showed it didn't do anything stop WNV. In fact..it was eerie..there were no birds chirping, no sound of "life" for weeks. We have two adorable wild pigeons on our roof that live there...we are worried abou them and finding them dead.

I can't leave, I have pets here...I can't leave. I don't know how much that would help anyway...I would still return to a home sprayed.

3 years ago when they did this people rose up, not this time...they have buried the info in a tiny corner of the newspaper...it is going to happen unless God Himself stops it.

Our neighbors are so blase' about this...like no big deal. Last time they sprayed the neighbors daughter got caught outside at the local park...I remember my neighbor was panicked her daughter was sprayed and she called me. But I guess everything turned out ok with her. On the other side they aren't worried at all, she grew up on a farm and her dad sprayed this stuff all the time, so she is completely happy about it.

What can happen is that it can "weaken" the immune system I have read. When my LD started 6 months after the last spraying maybe the pesticide played a part, I will never know. It may or may not have played a part by weakening my immune system..I was ALWAYS suspicous those planes poison played a part in my illness...and here we go again. These officials only monitor how many people show up in ER's the night of the spraying with breathing difficulties, they don't monitor long term effects.

When it is over my dogs need to go out every morning so...

We have a pesticide remover liquid, we will fully dress in "rain gear", face masks, goggles, we will look nuts to our neighbors, but do you think I care? We have a long hose nozzle that you can add liquid in it..we will spray our sidewalks, lawn, patio, cars, house, windows etc., with this pesticide remover in a powerful spray gun you hook up to the hose.

HIT AFTER HIT AFTER HIT AFTER HIT AFTER HIT.....FOR ME AND MY FAMILY..HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SO MANY TRIALS OF ONE PERSON/FAMILY EVER??????

Diana - I will give you call, I don't want to call too late.

Thank you for your prayers..please continue every night until I let you know if it is over or cancelled..the wind tends to calm down in the evening here, it has been so windy today...but as evening approaches it calms down....if it is God's will for this to happen I pray it happen quickly and be done with it...last time because of the winds we had to close up night after night and it would cancelled at midnight or they would fly once and have 2 more applications then the winds would pick up...it was insane.

I will be here....pray for our protection...please keep praying.

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT PRAYERS NEEDED!
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Isaiah 43 to you!


and....


STOP IT!

:woohoo:

It was a blessing talking with you. I will be praying for you!

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I want everyone to know, Diana had great advice when we spoke, please watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLMTvxOaeE :laugh3: Thanks for making me laugh at a very difficult time, really. Thank you for prayers.


Also COULD SPRAY CURE ME??? :kicking: PBO is one of the dangerous chemicals in this spray...look at this pubmed abstract re: PBO : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1452 ... d_RVDocSum

Please someone translate...if I have read this wrong. Very strange abstract. :duh:

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Dana,

Molly has posted this on our other message board. People are praying for you! I've never heard of spraying like this from planes other than on farms.

This is just unbelievable to me!! Good for you for turning on the sprinklers right away. We will continue to pray that it doesn;t happen. I can't believe that others in your neighborhood aren't as alarmed as you are.

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Dana, this just makes me livid! It's all a bunch of bull. and you know, now that you said that after the spraying last time it was earie, no wildlife sounds, I remember that here too. I just don't understand. There is not one reported case in the entire state of CA, and yet they are spraying your area, and who knows how many others, and lyme disease is on the rise like nobodies business, and nobody wants to do a thing about it.

if you want to talk. give me a call. I will likely have to take the kids to the doctor today, poor Kate is coughing so hard she's throwing up now. poor darling.

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Tonight it is suppose to start.

PRAY FOR WINDS - night after night! They are very persistent and will keep trying - if the winds blow every night long enough they may give it up and resort to a ground method.

Dar- thank you for prayers. Believe it or not they have sprayed many cities including NYC, cities in Ohio, Florida, Texas and many other states, all by air. There are grass roots organizations that have tried to stop them, but they can't, you know the saying, you can't fight city hall. It is very surreal when you see the planes fly over so low spraying us..they did this 3 years ago. There was a huge uprising of people, but no one fights anymore, because they know they can't win. We are forced to endure the assault whether we want to or not. All chemicals can suppress the immune system, cause cancer and are nuerotoxic.

Jaime - I am shaking already. Just trying very hard to hand this over to God, really - He is the only one that can stop this with WINDS that keeps them grounded. Call me when you can.

To everyone -

Can you believe our property taxes pay for this, yet no one asked me if I wanted my property sprayed!!
Many experts say it messes up the eco system killing bugs that we need that eat larvae etc., birds I am sure are poisoned - not just directly by the spray but when they eat from plants etc., the spray is on everything and will remain that way...like medication is has a half life - it won't be completely out of the environment up to 60 days.

The worst part - if they aren't satisfied with the "kill rate" they will go again!

We have other methods of "clean up" we will use with pesticide removers as we need to wash down our patio each day after they spray and the final day the house, windows etc..

I worry about our dogs as they are exposed to this as well, if it gets into the house on our shoes, their paws etc., the cats can become very sick, this stuff kills cats, their bodies cannot break it down.


PLEASE PRAY FOR WINDS - BUT IF THEY FLY AND THIS GOES ON IT WILL BE FOR 3 NIGHTS - PRAY WE HAVE A SURROUNDING OF PROTECTION AND THAT OUR BODIES WILL NOT BE PHASED BY THE CHEMICALS. PRAY THE WINDS CARRY THE CHEMICALS AWAY FROM OUR PROPERTY!!

I am very scared, trust me, I have suffered enough pain and I hope to God this doesn't irritate my CNS more..I pray it does nothing to us.

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Dana -

I know it's not the ideal or a solution, but can you think of anyone you can go stay with for a few days while the worst of it passes? I would defnitely turn off my air conditioner and fans while they spray.

Yes, it makes you wonder what all the spraying all these years has done to us. Could that be why there is so much more cancer? I remember when we used to run behind the "mosquitoe man" with glee when they came through our neighborhood spraying in the summer.

I remember also being in Anaheim on business back in the mid eighties or so and everyone protesting about the spraying. I think they did it while I was there! That is really creepy when you say that you didn't hear any wildlife the next day.

That video from Sojourner was hilarious. If only that worked for eating too much!

Dana, you, your family and your pets are in my prayers. Please, please do something relaxing tonight rather than await the monster. As you know, panic is not our friend. While you're relaxing, find out how to hire that woman who had a movie named after her - Julia Roberts played her, the cheeky legal assistant that sued the asses off the chemical company. She's a lawyer now! Maybe that's who we need in the forefront of our Lyme cause! Send her in to wipe out all the bozos. See, it's kind of like a pacman mentality they tell you to have when you have cancer. Just imagine that woman eating up all the idiots and spitting them out.

Please don't mistake my humor for lack of empathy. It is a scary. I think if I didn't shake my head and make fun of all the idiots who have really screwed up my life lately, I'd sink in too despair. Sometimes we just have to quit fighting so hard because we ultimately are fighting ourselves. At least that's how it is with me.

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Dana, I like Yike's idea, lol :) you should get on a plane and head to ohio , you can stay for a few months, weather is nice and hot here, you'll be gone befgore it gets cold :)

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How about Florida, 1/2 mile from the Beach. Open invitation!


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Erin Brockovich. That's her name. Renegade lawyer!


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Hi Yikes & Jaime..

Erin Brockovich, yes she has her own website I have actually emailed her regarding Lyme Disease in the last year or so. But she is so overwhelmed with people emailing her (she even mentions this) that she can't get around to everything.

It amazes me - I was telling Jaime on the phone our Governor Schwarzenegger is such a "health nut" he had all soda and candy machines removed from high schools! I honest to God don't think he even knows what is going on and IF he does, he certainly doesn't understand the dangers and believes WNV is a bigger threat than the pesiticides. If he is aware, I know he will take his family to their vacation home in France for a few months...must be nice.

I wish I could leave for 2 months! That is how long this stuff will cling to plants, trees, etc., I am not afraid of the planes spraying, I am afraid of the pesticides in the air for weeks and apparently months. Everytime I go outside for the next 60 days I am wearing a face mask and gloves...my neighbors are naive, they don't have "time" to care and since nothing bad happened to them last time, well this time is no biggie.

I will keep you all updated wind speeds right now are 19mph, they expect it to possibly be around 15mph at dusk when the planes go up...if so it will be cancelled for the night and anticipation of each night will continue.

Thank you for prayers Yikes, Jaime, everyone.

You are right Yikes, I can't do anything about this and the fight now is with myself - to calm down or I will have a heart attack over this. I am sure my heart will be racing when I hear the planes go over, knowing the poison has been dumped and here it comes...not just one night but 3. I pray for the birds ...we have so many beautiful birds that land in our yard everyday, even ducks land in our swimming pool!! Birds feel safe here apparently...our pigeons have lived in a little covered area of our roof for 2 years..I pray they will be ok..they are like pets to us, we talk to them and they tilt their heads and listen....I think my husband is most sick about them being poisoned too.


LOVE TO YOU ALL - I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED UNTIL THIS NIGHTMARE IS OVER - I PRAY FOR 40 DAYS AND 40 NIGHTS OF WIND GUSTS OVER 15MPH!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLOW THE WIND GOD, LET IT BLOW!!!!!!! THIS IS ONE STORM I DON'T WANT HIM TO CALM!!!

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 Post subject: Re: URGENT PRAYERS NEEDED! TONIGHT THEY START...
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Sprinklers - good idea. And hose down the house, too.

Didn't you just want to throttle that govt. guy right through the phone!

I have been thinking and praying for you since I found out about this. I actually think about it a lot.

More prayers!

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SPRINKLER SYSTEM FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!

The winds died down and the planes "assaulted" us with their toxins and I went to turn on the sprinkler system in our garage and the entire system failed!!!!!!!!! These sprinklers have NEVER had a problem, ever!! Tomorrow morning we will have to go out and manually turn them on. We tried everything and no water what so ever came out!! My husband thinks a wire is loose on it outside...obviously we couldn't fix it. UNREAL...MADE ME SO ANGRY what a nightmare!!

I walked throughout he house reading Psalm 91 as they approached.. amazingly- we watched the planes as they criss crossed over the neighborhood, it appeared we never took a direct hit the X they made in the air we were in the bottom part of, we watched as our neighbors house across the street took a direct hit over their roof, the other plane crossed at weird angle and missed us too.. so please keep praying in the days to come, prayers are being answered...please keep praying!

Also..I spoke w/ my neighbor, I was wrong about them not caring (at least on one side of me) if you look further back in my posts - their daughter 3 years ago was caught outdoors when the planes sprayed pesticides. They told me tonight she has had a lot of health issues in the past 2 years and they wish the county would keep track of the people in the spray zones, but they don't. They were very upset about the spraying and said they would pray for me not to feel anymore pain.

On the other side, lives the "veteran" farm girl, who grew up with crop dusters, she was OUTSIDE during the sprayings with her dog, brilliant.

Anyway....one night down 2 to go....wind and weather permitting. God, dear Lord I pray this kills their ridiculous worries and mosquitoes or we can get sprayed again.

Dar -
Aeiral spraying is now going on in 40 states I found out tonight. Lousiana is sprayed weekly by air, I wonder why? All that water, makes them a breeding ground for mosquitoes.

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I was thinking that if you were out there spraying down with protective gear and masks it may increase awareness in your neighborhood for those that may have not considered how dangerous this is. Well, except for the farm girl and her poor dog.

I feel for the little girl with the health issues. This is just SO wrong!

In my quest for prayers for you I heard from someone who has spraying in her area but she fortunately lives in the city and wasn't affected. She was wondering why they were spraying for mosquitoes (for "West Nile" virus) when it's been so dry and they are having their lowest mosquito season ever. Sounds very fishy to me and it also sounded weird to her.


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Dana, after thinking about it, I'm kinda glad they ended up spraying last night. I'm SO GLAD you didn't directly get sprayed. I can not believe your neighbor standing out there...DUH, hello??? the reason I say I'm glad is for your sake,...after talking to you on the phone I think if you had to go 2 months with this anticipation every day of "will they spray or night" would just kill you. This way it will be done and over with, seeing as you can't do anything about it anyhow.

I can not belive your sprinklers didn't work! uhg. I pray you will be able to get that problem fixed in the morning.

Kate and I prayed hard for you last night. Do you know what the winds were when they went up? I know you said over 12mph they couldn't fly.

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 Post subject: Re: KEEP PRAYING ROUND TWO TONIGHT!!!
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Molly - the news coverage has been so minimal, they don't want people having time to fight them. Last time they announced weeks in advance and had their hands full of protesters. This time just a few days. Kids were out riding their bikes at 8pm and a neighbor was knocking on doors telling people to get their kids in...people just weren't made aware. Yes the farm girl next door - I can't believe was out there as the planes flew over with her dog. I pictured in my mind her covered with an invisible dust that she will take in her house (it remains in carpet for 60+ days) to her two babies 1 and 2 years old. Unreal. I had no idea the neighbors on the other side (with the daughter) were so upset. I mentioned she must have a strong immune system to actually get sprayed and be ok, that is when her dad said, she has been sick a lot since then off and on. Wow...that is scary. This is a huge immunosuppressant. I won't go outside without a face mask...or touch anything for weeks. Two ways it gets in us, through breathing it and skin absorption. I was reading how in NYC they sprayed with planes and helicopters during the day and people were getting hit with the spray everywhere in outdoor cafes etc. Isn't' that unreal????? A group in San Fran is fighting monthly aerial sprayings....they don't believe they are really after this moth they claim to be, they believe (like some believe about Lyme) they are being tested by our government for "survival" of pesticide attacks!


Jaime - Yeah, 2 more nights. Now I hope they just get it over with... it looks like during the night the sprinklers came on???? We are stumped and cant fix them.

The thing that scares me is that I won't know (if ever) for months (or years) if this had any serious effect on us. It will be in the atmosphere for 2 months....and dear God, I pray they don't spray again. I am headachy this morning, which is odd...I am very tired my dogs got me up early, they hadn't been out in over 13 hours! Now I have to drive to my pain management Md..and I'm so tired, Paul and I both are, he worked his tail off cleaning up the pesticides and his face mask blew off and away during it! CRUD!!!!!!

The weather report read the winds were 12mph - I didn't think they'd go, but they did.

Thanks for praying...I appreciate it every night until this is over and I hope it is over soon, as long as the winds cooperate.

Hey...I saw a bird this morning by our pool! ONE...but I don't hear any chirping...it is quiet, who knows what 2 more nights of this will do to the wildlife. I saw a poor lady bug, fighting to survive. See this garbage kils bugs we need.

They asked on last nights world news 'WHERE ARE THE BEES?' Duh...they are dying from all the pesiticide spraying in this country, can they really be that stupid?? This stuff is highly toxic to bees and fish!

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THURSDAY EVENING...THE ASSAULT CONTINUES THE PLANES ARE IN THE AIR HEADED OUR WAY RIGHT NOW.

PRAY OUR HOUSE IS PROTECETED WITH AN INVISIBLE SHIELD THAT REPELS ANY PESTICIDES AWAY FROM OUR PROPERTY....THIS IS SICK THAT OUR GOVERNMENT CAN SPEND OUR TAX DOLLARS ON THIS..THERE MUST BE A LAWYER OUT THERE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT CAN FIND A WAY TO STOP THIS! :cry:

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Dana, I will always have you in my prayers. Been praying very hard the last few nights about this. Just think about how many farmers are using this, all the other spraying going on, etc, it's got to be everywhere. We all have to have this in our bodies. From the food we eat, the water we drink, oh how insaine! And even if we wash our food, i am really thinking it's just got to become part of the plant itself. You know, the roots suck up water, and the nutrients become part of the food, this has to too, and the cows, etc, etc, etc. nice place we live in.

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 Post subject: Re: KEEP PRAYING ROUND - WE TOOK DIRECT HIT!
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Night number 2 of pesticide assault

I am telling you from the moment we got up until we went to bed Thursday "Murphy's law" was at work...all day. If I told you everything that went wrong you'd faint :faint:

Then the icing on the cake, about 10:30pm the planes approached I saw it coming right at us (through the upstairs window) I was screaming (like the pilot could here me) NO!!! and the plane roared right over our rooftop - direct hit! I could have screamed!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have talked to my LLMD who was very "sorry" this was happening and advised I stay inside in the following days, but I was outside all day Wednesday w/my husband trying to fix the sprinklers (one of 10 things that went wrong)

We both feel EXHAUSTED - what is in the spray, ambien? I feel a headache and more nerve pain, throat is scratchy...coincidental? I don't know. They could be the immediate effects, but I worry more about 6 months and beyond.

My pain management Md said this spraying was the most unnecessary and useless thing in the world, he then said, WNV is not a big problem, never has been, never will be - he was angry and even noted in my chart that I live in the one of the "spray zone" in case I show "future" problems. He said it is a shame that people who end up with cancer years from now in the spray zones, could never prove these idiotic aerial sprayings caused it.

One more night.....PLEASE KEEP PRAYING....

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Dear Dana,
I am very sorry for all that has come with this sad, sad decision. So much for our joke. I am sorry that you were looking when they flew overhead. If there is to be more tonight, stay away from the windows and put your praise music or a worship service tape in. Watching it is too upsetting and cannot help you through it.

I am so sad that your sprinkler system did not work. This, like all things that we experience is spiritual warfare. The Lord tells us to put on the armor so that we can divert the fiery darts that come - things just like this that are seemingly out of our control. You did all that you knew to do and prepared the best that you could. The Lord heard you and has not forgotten you.

I am now just praying for a lot of rain. That in itself would help in different ways.
I can't imagine what your heart was feeling when you watched that. I want you to stay away from the birdseye view if they spray again. We all know the stress is not good for you and this has been extremely intense.

I just read this and thought that I needed to pass it along. I wish I had known it weeks ago; but for future reference: "The LDA has been accepted as a partner by the Environmental Protection Agency’s Pesticide Environmental Stewardship Program (PESP), a voluntary program that forms partnerships to reduce the potential health and environmental risks associated with pests and pesticide use."

It may be worth a call to contact them if you have not already heard of PESP and done so. I am hopeful they can be of service to your family and your neighbors.

Put on your armour Dana and do not let the enemy get a foothold. What is done is done and we do not want to see harm come to you from the stress of it. We are standing with you in faith even knowing that the spraying took place.

Can you start taking your activated charcoal and get those particals out of you. Ask Dr. B how he treats patients who come to him from pesticide/environmental exposure naturally and give that priority. Unless Dr. B. has a specific protocol, find someone in the meantime who has an ionized foot bath and get you, Paul and Danny there to draw the chemicals down and out if any filtered or sifted in .
It will help to give you peace of mind.

2 Corinthians 4:6- For God, who said, "Let light shine out of darkness,"made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us. We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.

2 Chronicles 20: 9...15b 'If calamity comes upon us, whether the sword of judgment, or plague or famine, we will stand in your presence before this temple that bears your Name and will cry out to you in our distress, and you will hear us and save us.' ....This is what the LORD says to you: 'Do not be afraid or discouraged because of this vast army. For the battle is not yours, but God's.

Rest in Him, Dana. Run to His refuge, hide under his wonderful, safe wing. He said the battle belongs to Him. You have been His warrior and He knows what is in your heart. He loves you so.

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 Post subject: Re: 3 rd night finished..one last message to all of you
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FINAL NIGHT & REQUEST TO ALL OF YOU

Thank you Diana for comforting words and scripture.

I have a "new" fear...they usually start around 8:30 pm, at 8:15 I heard a plane in the distance. I was calling their hot line which updates as soon as the planes are in the air. It had NOT said spraying had started, I assumed the plane I heard in the distance was them testing the wind..that is common. I took my dogs out really fast for their last trip outside, got them in the house, turned on the sprinklers manually. I kept checking in between to see if treatment had started...they normally start way, way at the other end we are at the finish line so to speak and the earliest we are hit is around 9:30. Their website is quite accurate and will give immediate update.. but tonight gave no update until later and the message by phone still said it hadn't started, it was about 8:35 by now. The whole time I was outside I didn't see or hear any planes...just that one at 8:15 in the distance, which I only heard ..that was my reminder I had to get the dogs out, I was sure it was a "wind" check, but I might be wrong, maybe they had started to spray.

At 8:41 I turned off the sprinklers outside, I could hear a plane coming and stepped inside quickly closed the door..just in time. It missed our property entirely, although close. I was in at 8:41 exactly. I then checked the website and it said they started at 8:33 - I hope I didn't go out with the dogs AFTER the first plane sprayed, the one I heard at 8:15 in the distance.

Kind of shaky right now thinking I could have been outside after the first plane sprayed, but even if I was outside between planes, I only heard it, the sound was in the distance. The second plane passed right as I closed the door and it was the closest.

Anyway...kind of shaken not sure if I was caught outside in between planes, either way neither was near the house, the closest one I was inside for sure!

They never start at this end and have always started at the opposite end, but tonight went "backwards" and tonights spraying was not as thorough as the last 2 nights.

It's over.

We are on charcoal it is actually mentioned in a "protect yourself from pesticide" manual. Also to drink lots of water and take magnesium...likely to move things out quickly. So I am charcoaled, magnesium and watered up...we all are.

My request to all of you: Please first pray I wasn't outside in between the 2 planes sprayings, that will always be in the back of my mind, kind of scary. Pesticide's don't always cause problems right away, as I am sure you know. It can take years or months if someone were to get sick from the spray. Please pray this spraying has no ill effects on any of us, that we are just as strong if not stronger than we were a week ago. Pray for our immune system, every cell in our bodies be untouched. Pray they never spray us again..they can spray us again this year if their "kill rate" isn't highly successful.

So I ask that you say one final prayer - that we will not experience any ill effects of this spray a few months from now or 15 years from now. The future is what worries me, but worry isn't faith, so I try to remain in faith.

Paul and I both have been very fatigued, narcolepsy fatigue, this can be an "immediate' symptom of mild toxic effects, I also had a headache off and on and felt very weak. Danny (I hope is right) thinks it is from the stress we had all week from anticipation to each days major clean up.

Thank you for prayers to all of you through this stressful event.

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I am glad it is over. I prayed for each of the concerns you shared. Just from the way you've described it, Dana, it sure sounds as though you were safe taking your dogs out.
Try not to worry about that.

Now is the healing and calming time. You need to just be free from this for now.

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Thank you once again Diana.
I hope "worry" doesn't plaque me for months ....it was so odd how I got so sick 6 months after the last aerial spraying, I always connected in my mind that spraying with what happened to me...maybe really slammed my immune system or just aggravated the tick population? Some groups believe the spray makes mosquitoes more aggressive, I am sure it does the same to ticks.

Oh well... I do not know and never will. I just know I am better prepared this time for ticks and the pesticides, I am wearing a face mask for a month when I go outside, maybe longer. Wouldn't it be great if it rained like you said???? So unlikely though this time of year.

Thanks everyone for being there.

By the way Diana Paul laughed hysterically at the Bob Newhart skit!

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And make lots of new Lymie friends!

Molly, I know this is tempting you. Yes?? :jumpy:

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Dana, I have prayed and prayed and prayed for each of your concerns. I am sure with al of our prayers God has surely heard us, and the terror in our voices. I think I agreee with Danny, much of what you are experiencing is stress related. Go listen to some Joyce. On her website right now they have the top picks from viewers, and some are great, well, all are great, but I think some will really do you some good.

I tried to call the other day to see how you were. You must have been busy with all this mess. Please try to call me later if you need to talk. It's so hard to be this stressed. I'm having some issues right now, and my stres level is OFF the charts. but i'll save that for later. Lets just say people I thought were friends, good friends, are most definitly not.

Open invite to Ohio my love :)
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Very tempting! Then I could meet you both!

You are definately in my prayers.

My husband wants to "bug bomb" our attic as we have big black ants there. Does anyone know a safer alternative?

He's already purchased the bomb and I'm scared silly. He thinks I'm a little nutty.

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Google natural ant killers, boric acid I believe is one.

Thanks for prayers...hope we are going to be ok, we have had burningn eyes, scratchy throats and extreme fatigue...all signs of mild toxicity and been indoors 99% of the last few days!

I want to move...but I am moving to Alaska...or Montana...low tick and WNV infection rates! :jumpy:

After watching "Sicko" this weekend (which EVERYONE should see) no matter if you love or hate Michael Moore...I'd really like to move to France or Canada now...everyone in the country has free health care...boy, our country knows how to take care of us, don't they? We are the only country in the Western hemisphere that doesn't offer free health care to all citizens!

Love you all,
Dana

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 Post subject: Re: Spray is over, ONE final request to all of you
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Dana, is there anyone you can report your symptoms too? That's scary. I know with us, it could just be lyme symptoms coming out from all this stress. I know how much of that you've been under it's scary. But still, worth reporting.

Michaele Moore, I happen to love him, he tells it how it is. I love that movie Sicko, love it when he takes people who helped with 9/11 to something like cuba and they even treated these people, and felt grateful to do so.

I will continue to pray for you. I will try to get a hold of you later. I'm now getting the kids colds :( This cough is aweful, I feel so bad for my kids, they've had it for over a week now.

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 Post subject: Re: Spray is over, ONE final request to all of you
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I called the Health Department and of course I knew they wouldn't have anyone taking down symptoms...but I said anyway with urgency, "Who can I talk to about symptoms in the "spray zone?" They connected me with a nurse. I told her we had headaches, burning eyes, scratchy throats and fatigue that cannot be explained. She took down the info (supposidly) I told her they need to send out post cards yearly to check on people in the spray zones to see if the rate of cancer is increasing...she said, "Yeah, but we don't".

Just like my doctor here said, "If you have perm effects, you won't ever be able to prove it." Isn't that sick?

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