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 Post subject: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:31 am 
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Benjamin Luft, M.D., Professor of Medicine, Stony Brook University Medical Center, and colleagues discovered that a certain clone of Borrelia burgdorferi, the spirochete that causes Lyme disease, appears to be the most common strain causing Lyme disease in North America and Europe, and may account for the increase in cases for the past 20 years.

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/542096/

Please note who helped to fund this study at the bottom of the article. This is why Heth chose the LDA as her 'research charity gift' organization.

The tide is turning. More will come. Hold on to hope. Do not be surprised at what comes. Stay calm and pass it on. It is valid, legitimate research. It will have to be included w/the new IDSApanel review of all science. This is equipping research.
Copy it and carry it to your doctors at your appointments.

Remember that the Lord already knows and has a plan. We must trust and live with hope.

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:19 am 
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This is really scary stuff.

Just the other day an LD patient implied to me that we have a (government) "mutated, escaped" version of LD because it is so hard for people to get well. I just don't flinch at any possibility. Something strange is going on.

After reading this I was thinking how impossible it would be to explain to a mainstream Md not only do you have LD, but a cloned more virulent strain. The medical community already thinks that Chronic Lyme doesn't exist and the Md's that treat us are a crazy group I am sure. This gets more crazy by the day, my heart just palpitates reading this.

We need to know though and so does the rest of the world. The LDA is an awesome organization, thank God for them.

I also picture in my mind 50 years from now doctor's offices swamped with people sick from this ...or empty because a cure was found, which seems more far fetched?

Danny was reading that in Russia LD is becoming widespread. What is happening? Is this another version of the black plague? Is this biblical stuff coming to life?

I have thought for a very long time that we have been bio-attacked and our government is not talking, even our President has (or had supposedly) LD! First president in history to get Lyme!

Sounds so bleak - yet I KNOW that our government knows exactly what is going on and "mums the word" on things we probably don't know and will never know.

I can only pray this research leads to answers and prayerfully a cure....otherwise it is just plain scary.

Excellent idea to print this.

For some reason I haven't thought of this song in years, but caught myself singing it shortly after reading this: I know most Christians will know this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jFPNbtflG0



Thank you Diana for letting us know.

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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I keep reading about this. How strange.

I've learned to "never say never" when it comes to Lyme. Nothing should surprise us, really.

We are in God's hands and we need to count on Him. He is looking out for us and answering our prayers.

Thanks for posting this, Diana.


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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:53 pm 
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Can anybody say 'Plum Island?'

Syphillis era?

You are right. We have to run to Jesus. He knows it all already and promises to defend us. Whatever that looks like from heaven's perspective.

I am grateful we have Him in us.

My grandfather served as a Naval Captain during WWII. He was invited to fly near or through the mushroom cloud when A 20-kiloton atomic bomb was dropped from an airplane and exploded in the air ...over the Marshall Islands, near their base housing. They were told it was safe. It was 1946. Had they only really understood, he would not have died of cancer and my mom, a naval brat would not have eaten the fish from the bay on Kawjalen Island. She was 12. She died of breast cancer when she was 65....after nearly 8 years of the battle. (Off subject) Heather reminds me of mom they way she takes such good care of herself. No matter how badly she feels, she takes the time to dress, do her hair, simply but in a way that shows she takes care - before going out the door. She said, and I heard mom say it too, that it makes her feel better. I really admire that.

No, nothing surprises me anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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Diana,
I just told Dr. B about this and he wanted me to email it to him. However, I just glanced at the PDF version - just wanted to make sure it is the correct link since it is about Bartonella? Does it mention this "cloned" version of bb in there?

I already emailed him both links...but just thought I'd have you double check.

Plumb Island...what escaped from there changed everything...the governments dirty secret...I don't trust our government at all. Am I alone?

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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Dana,

I am sorry. I posted a link that was one of several abstracts I was reading; the Bart is separate. Use the first link only to lead him to the cloning clinical study.

My apologies. I read the clone publication and then went on from there to read other emerging infectuous articles up and coming. It was the last one I read I think.

I've edited the second article out of the post.

Nothing like sharing the food and then confusing the ingredients!

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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Well Dr. B will think I had a brain fog episode...but that's ok! :smiley:

Thanks for doubling checking - I am sure the Bart link is interesting too!

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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How aweful is it that we don't even flinch at the idea this is our government? It just doesn't even surprise us. I think it's because deep down we already knew that. a cloned version of this crap, sorry, I just couldn't come up with another word! This is crazy.

Good idea to email to Dr. B~

hopefully our duck docs will start wising up a bit and see this for what it is. Aknowledge it exists. We are living proof of that.

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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I posted this at another forum and ALL replies (many) are saying "government altered strain" - not a natural "morphing" as the article implies. Seriously this makes me wonder if Lyme was ONCE easily treatable before this version emerged, since so many patients struggle and struggle to get well. Just think too, it was thought to cause achy joints - not anymore, it fully attacks every system and organ causing all kinds of pain, not JOINT pain.

ALSO - were the co-infection's part of this "alteration"? In Under Our Skin - Dr. H says he isn't sure that years ago all the co-infections existed and viruses that are passed by ticks, because patients now are MUCH sicker and multiply co-infected. SICK!!

I am SO suspicious of the aerial spraying that have gone across this country over neighborhoods (including ours) in response to West Nile Virus...what is that all about seriously...what was in the spray - 1000 people nationwide get WNV and they are aerial spraying the country? Come on, what are they spraying, really? I know I sound paranoid, I am.

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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Unit 731 (World War 2)

-To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied.

-Prisoners were infested with fleas in order to acquire large quantities of disease-carrying fleas for the purposes of studying the viability of germ warfare.

-Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected supplies encased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around 200,000 Chinese civilians.

-Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians.

-Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644, Unit 100, et cetera) were actively involved not only in research and development, but also in experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics.



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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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Well I think that says a lot for my "aerial spraying" theory. I know this isn't only other countries doing this...the U.S. Top Secret documents would likely make us scream in terror - as they adopt other countries methods. This country is very good at hiding things.

My personal opinion is - I am not 100% sure this our government doing this, I would NOT put it past them and if not then we likely have already been attacked with germ warfare and no one is talking for fear of pandemonium. Or a virulent clone escaped Plumb Island 20 years ago and they kept their fingers crossed the germ would die out. Remember the accidental release of the Killer Bees from a lab?

Our government officials would love for us to believe we are safe and that another 9/11 or anthrax (or similar attack) is under control and could never happen, I believe it has already.

Makes me wonder why are they so quiet lately? No terror warnings, no "scale" of terror threat anymore? Really we'd be stupid to think they don't know exactly what is going on with LD, OF COURSE THEY KNOW and I am sure the the CDC has the cure. Conspiracy theories? You bet they are real.

The news the other day said 50% of the population is in pain or chronically ill in some form. 50%!

Les Roberts (author of the Poison Plumb) asks, Was the founding father of the Plum Island lab a former Nazi germ warfare scientist?

AND MY FAVORITE - Have germ cocktails been deliberately released on unsuspecting Americans to test their efficacy and virulence? I would guess YES. Something has happened, there are too many of us sick and being ignored...like LisaS says, "Lyme the governments forbidden fruit".

Read more here of his thoughts. This man is highly intelligent, I don't doubt his questions are true.

http://www.poisonplum.com/index.html

Danny
Tularemia sounds like a fun one - here are SOME of the symptoms:
Fever
Headache
Sore joints
Tiredness
Weakness
Cough
Pain of the chest
Shortness of breath
Weight loss
Enlarged lymph nodes
Sore throat
Fever
Chills
Muscle pain
Headache
Painful ulcer - at infection site
Slow-growing ulcer
Regional lymph node pain
Regional lymph node inflammation
Swollen lymph nodes
Severe conjunctivitis
Preauricular lymphadenopathy
Severe exudative stomatitis
Pharyngitis
Tonsillitis
Cervical lymphadenopathy
Fever
Enlarged liver
Enlarged spleen
Intestinal pain
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Primary pleuropulmonary disease

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
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you have it right on the nail here. I'm surprised you haven't been contacted in a threatened way saying to remove this thread :)

someitmes i wonder if we are all just little pawns in this country. like there are "higher" ups playing with us like little toys.

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 Post subject: Re: Prof of Medicine,Stony Brook U.Med.Ctr discovers clone of Bb
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:47 pm 
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I hear that, I keep waiting for the knock at the door ...although I am not the author of this stuff, I only find what others have written and post it.
Here is more:

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The Borrelia genus has been a subject of biowar experimentation at least as far back as WW2, when the infamous Japanese Unit 731, which tortured and experimented on live prisoners, studied it.


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It was an ideal biowar agent because it evades detection on routine tests, has an enormous range of different presentations, and can mimic everything from ADHD to multiple sclerosis to carpal tunnel syndrome to rheumatoid arthritis to chronic fatigue syndrome (M.E.) to lupus to schizophrenia. Enemy medical staff would never know what had hit them, nor even that ONE illness had hit their population, rather than an unexplained rise in dozens of known conditions.


Making even more sense...WOW!


Read more here: http://www.samento.com.ec/sciencelib/4l ... eapon.html

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