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 Post subject: Magesium?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:48 am 
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Magnesium aids in the growth of bio film?


Dr. Fry explains that the reason magnesium needs to be withheld from the mineral supplement is due to the fact that magnesium aids the bacteria in the development of the biofilm. Therefore, after destroying the biofilm and the bacteria, it is not logical to provide magnesium, which will only help create more biofilm. Dr. Fry has also found that Lyme disease patients more often than not have an overabundance of magnesium. However, he recommends monitoring the patient's magnesium level during treatment.


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:duh: What is bio Film? I am on Mag B6 that my LLMD gave me.

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Biofilm is spirochetes that form clusters and hide inside the film. that is why they think some Patients may relapse because these films can reopen and start multiplying all over again.


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It seems like there is a difference of opinion on this between doctors. I remember the threads over on Lymenet about this. Some Dr's said no magnesium and others prescribed it.

Biofilms are "films" that surround bacteria literally protecting them. It's different than the cyst form but probably more serious. It is thought that Lumbrokinaise and other enzymes (Serrapeptase, etc) break down the biofilms but it's a relatively new discovery (I think)

Here's a good explanation, I think:

http://lymemd.blogspot.com/2008/07/biofilms.html

I take Magnesium, too, and feel it's important to stay alkaline and for other health reasons. If we are short on minerals our bodies will leech them from our bones (especially women) and this can lead to other serious health issues. It would be tough for me to avoid it since I use Trace Minerals, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Magesium?
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Yes, I am aware of this and YES there definitely is a difference of opinion. I can't jump on the "Magnesium might creat biofilms band wagon yet". You would think that Burrascano would have published this in his updated Guidelines if it is significant, but it isn't there. He still lists Mag as a "required" supplement just months ago (when his guidelines were updated)

(I hope Diana sees this post, would like her input and if Heather does Mag, would like to hear their team of LLMd's opinions)

One LLMd I have seen has said MOST people are extremely magnesium deficient, it is a water soluble vitamin we can use up quickly (see lists below).

Personally -without magnesium, my muscles would be twitching, cramping and my heart would palpitate, my bowels would not be moving. Magnesium is essential for neuro function and many other things in the body.

Until Burrascano says it - I have to keep Mag in my supplements. It just seems farfetched, but I not a scientist - I don't know who first came up with this theory and I wish they would write an abstract about it if true. (If anyone knows of any abstracts post them please).

I mean LLMD's are now not sure whether L-Form and Cystic form are one in the SAME now!!! Before they were sure they were 2 different forms, this theory is likely to change too.

All Bb research is in it's infancy unfortunately and I doubt it will all come together for many years. We will likely one day laugh at what we did and didn't do...once more proven facts emerge.

People worried about biofilms can ask their LLMD's to Rx some Augmentin if you are worried about bio-films the clauvanic acid in Augmentin is showing to break them up. Oh boy, sounds like fun!!

Here are links FOR magnesium, deficiency can cause Anxiety and Psychiatric Disorders and much much more:

Conditions linked to magnesium defiency: http://www.ctds.info/5_13_magnesium.html AND http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html

Lyme and Mag: http://www.lymeinfo.net/magnesium.html

Here are just some problems mag deficiency cause:
ADD/ADHD
Alzheimer's
Angina
Anxiety disorders
Arrhythmia
Arthritis- Rheumatoid and Osteoarthritis
Asthma
Autism
Auto immune disorders- all types
Cavities
Cerebral Palsy- in children from magnesium deficient mothers
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Congestive Heart Disease
Constipation
Crooked teeth- narrow jaw- in children from magnesium deficient mothers
Depression
Diabetes- Type I and II
Eating disorders- Bulimia, Anorexia
Fibromyalgia
Gut disorders- including peptic ulcer, Crohn's disease, colitis, food allergy
Heart Disease- Arteriosclerosis, high cholesterol, high triglycerides
Heart Disease- in infants born to magnesium deficient mothers
High Blood Pressure
Hypoglycemia
Impaired athletic performance
Infantile Seizure- in children from magnesium deficient mothers
Insomnia
Kidney Stones
Lou Gehrig's Disease
Migraines- including cluster type
Mitral Valve Prolapse
Multiple Sclerosis
Muscle cramps
Muscle weakness, fatigue
Myopia- in children from magnesium deficient mothers
Obesity- especially obesity associated with high carbohydrate diets
Osteoporosis- just adding magnesium reversed bone loss
Parkinson's Disease
PMS- including menstrual pain and irregularities
PPH- Primary Pulmonary Hypertension
Raynaud's
SIDS- Sudden Infant Death Syndrome
Stroke
Syndrome X- insulin resistance
Thyroid disorders- low, high and auto-immune; low magnesium reduces T4

The following substances or conditons REDUCE magnesium:
Alcohol- all forms cause significant losses
Amphetamines/Cocaine
Burns- with large surface area
Calcium- high levels block magnesium absorption
Carbohydrates- especially white sugar, high fructose corn syrup, white flour
Chronic pain- any cause
Coffee- significant losses
Cyclosporin- extra magnesium can protect from side-effects
Diabetes- magnesium spills with sugar in the urine
Diarrhea- any cause
Dieting- stress plus lowered intake
Diuretics- even potassium sparing diuretics do not spare magnesium
Insulin- whether from using insulin or from hyperinsulinemia
Over-training- extreme athletic physical conditioning/training
Phentermine / Fenfluramine
Sodas- especially cola type sodas, both diet and regular
Sodium- high salt intake
Stress- physical and mental- anything that gets your fight or flight reaction
Surgery
Sweat

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