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 Post subject: Co-infection symptoms & Lyme symptoms
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:53 am 
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Co-infection symptoms & Lyme symptoms

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Nearly impossible to to differentiate Lyme from other bacteria ticks transfer during a bite (Co-infections) a trained LLMD (Lyme literate Md) will devise a treatment plan that best fits what disease you may carry. The following are some of the symptoms experienced with the most common co-infections (there are more than on this list - see link at bottom and not listed here, viral co-infections) This is not to replace medical evaluation and treatment from your MD.
Chart of symptom break-down of Lyme and co-infections:

Common symptoms of Lyme:

Some of the symptoms of Lyme and the co-infections can overlap. The following is taken from:

Babesiosis is a malaria-like protozoa illness that invades, infects, and kills the red blood cells. Symptoms include fatigue, night sweats, chills, fever, shortness of breath, heart palpitations, headache, dark urine, muscle pain, joint pain, nausea, and jaundice. Treatment is an anti-malarial combined with an antibiotic--often Mepron or Malarone with Zithromax or Biaxin w/Artemisinin. Septra/Bactrim has shown in some cases to be effective.

Ehrlichiosis is a bacterial infection that invades and infects the white blood cells. There are two types of Ehrlichiosis: Human Monocytic Ehrlichiosis (HME) and Human Granulocytic Ehrlichiosis (HGE). Symptoms include malaise, fever, sweating, nausea, dry cough, headache, anemia, muscle aches and pain. First line treatment is most often Doxycycline, Minocycline and/or Rifampin. Cipro, Levaquin, Biaxin and Azithromycin have shown in some cases to be effective.

Bartonella also known as cat-scratch fever is a bacterial infection. Symptoms include swollen, painful lymph nodes, muscle and/or joint pain, nausea, vomiting, chills, anxiety, insomnia, red rashes that resemble stretch marks. Treatment is often Levaquin or Rifampin, Biaxin or Azithromycin. Septra/Bactrim has shown in some cases to be effective.

Mycoplasma is a bacterial infection. Symptoms include fatigue, breathing problems, headache, muscle pain and soreness, nausea, lymph node pain, and cognitive problems. Treatment is usually Doxycycline, Minocycline, Azithromycin, Clarithromycin, or Ciprofloxacin.

Lyme Disease - (300 strains worldwide - 100 strains in the U.S.) In addition their are 3 bacterial forms of LD that must be addressed before treatment ends, Bacterial Forms include: Spirochete, Cyst, Cell Wall Deficient
To learn more on the 3 forms please read this:

The following info was gathered from a Lyme conference ILADS LLMD during his presentation:

Brain Fog
Foot/heel pain
Ice pick headaches
Bowel problems IBS/IBD
Swollen Glands
OCD behavior
Peripheral Neuropathy
Rapid relapse off abx
Immediate illness following tick bite
Subcutaneous nodules
Swollen Joints
Swollen lymph nodes
Psychiatric problems
Shin pain
No response to previous abx
Plantar and costal margin pain (plantar=soles of feet costal margin = The lower edge of the chest (thorax) formed by the bottom edge of the rib cage)
Rapid mood shifts
Development of these symptoms during Babesia Treatment

Ehrlichia (There are 2 known strains of Ehrlichia - HME and HGE)
Myalgias (muscle pain)
Tendon pain
Mild headaches
Right upper quad pain
Elevated Liver function (after ruling out hepatitis)

A website shows these symptoms for Ehrlichia and/or Anaplasma:
Ehrlichiosis Human granulocytic Ehrlichiosis (HGE) is caused by Anaplasma phagocytophila. Human monocytic Ehrlichiosis (HME) is caused by Ehrlichia chaffeensis. Symptoms:
Fever (only after initial infection)
Myalgia and arthralgia
Lycopenia and thrombocytopenia
Hyponatremia Mental confusion
Skin rashes
Genital and oral ulcers
Severe pain syndromes
Nausea and vomiting (acute flare-ups)
*Natural Therapy recommendations (see Buhner's book): think astragalus (elevates interferon gamma) and colchicine

Mycoplasma Fermentans
Bowel problems
Joint swelling and pain
No response to previous abx

Bradycardia (Slowed heart beat)
Night sweats
Dry cough
Air hunger
Easy bruising
Vivid or violent dreams
Dysphagia (Difficulty swallowing)
Psychic Phenomena
Severe Neurological illness
Thirst/Polydipsia (excessive thirst)
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Severe nausea
Malaise (A vague feeling of bodily discomfort)
Thrombocytosis (Increased numbers of platelets in the blood)
Thrombocytopenia (A decrease in the number of platelets in the blood, resulting in the potential for increased bleeding and decreased ability for clotting)

In the book "Diagnoses and Treatment of Babesia" by Dr. Schaller he lists the following as Babesia symptoms:
• High fevers
• Dullness
• Listless
• Chills
• Sweats
• Headaches
• Fatigue
• Sleep more than 8 1/2 hours per day

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Treatment of co-infections:

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 Post subject: Re: Co-infection symptoms & Lyme symptoms
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:32 pm 
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Nuerological Lyme symptoms Chart & List Below (from two different websites):

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LD Symptoms List

Bladder dysfunction
Brain fog
Burning or stabbing sensations
Cardiac impairment
Change in bowel function
Chest pain
Difficulty thinking
Difficulty with concentration and reading
Difficulty with speech, writing
Difficulty finding words; name blocking
Disorientation: getting lost, going to wrong places
Disturbed sleep: too much, too little, fractionated, early awakening
Ears/Hearing: buzzing, ringing, ear pain, sound sensitivity
Exaggerated symptoms or worse hangover from alcohol
Eyes/Vision: double, blurry, increased floaters, light sensitivity
Facial paralysis (Bell's palsy)
Fatigue, tiredness, poor stamina
Heart block
Heart murmur
Heart palpitations
Heart valve prolapse
Increased motion sickness
Irritable bladder
Joint pain or swelling
Migrating pain
Mood swings
Muscle pain or cramps
Neck creaks & cracks
Neck stiffness, pain
Pelvic pain
Poor attention
Poor balance
Poor short-term memory
Problem absorbing new information
Pulse skips
Rib soreness
Sexual dysfunction or loss of libido
Shooting pains
Shortness of breath; cough
Skin hypersensitivity
Sore throat
Stiffness of the joints or back
Swollen glands
Testicular pain
Transitory symptoms - (i.e., shoulder pain for awhile, then possibly stomach pain, then knee pain, any combo ever-changing, shifting or moving)
Twitching of the face or other muscles
Unavoidable need to sit or lay down
Unexplained breast pain
Unexplained fevers, sweats, chills or flushing
Unexplained hair loss
Unexplained menstrual irregularity'
Unexplained milk production
Unexplained weight loss or gain
Upset Stomach or abdominal pain

Lyme symptoms from Canlyme

Rash at site of bite
Rashes on other parts of your body
Rash basically circular and spreading out (or generalized)
Raised rash, disappearing and recurring

Head, Face, Neck

Unexplained hair loss
Headache, mild or severe, Seizures
Pressure in Head, White Matter Lesions in Head (MRI)
Twitching of facial or other muscles
Facial paralysis (Bell's Palsy)
Tingling of nose, (tip of) tongue, cheek or facial flushing
Stiff or painful neck
Jaw pain or stiffness
Dental problems (unexplained)
Sore throat, clearing throat a lot, phlegm ( flem ), hoarseness, runny nose


Double or blurry vision
Increased floating spots
Pain in eyes, or swelling around eyes
Oversensitivity to light
Flashing lights/Peripheral waves/phantom images in corner of eyes


Decreased hearing in one or both ears, plugged ears
Buzzing in ears
Pain in ears, oversensitivity to sounds
Ringing in one or both ears

Digestive and Excretory Systems

Irritable bladder (trouble starting, stopping) or Interstitial cystitis
Upset stomach (nausea or pain) or GERD (gastroesophageal reflux disease)

Musculoskeletal System

Bone pain, joint pain or swelling, carpal tunnel syndrome
Stiffness of joints, back, neck, tennis elbow
Muscle pain or cramps, (Fibromyalgia)

Respiratory and Circulatory Systems

Shortness of breath, can't get full/satisfying breath, cough
Chest pain or rib soreness
Night sweats or unexplained chills
Heart palpitations or extra beats
Endocarditis, Heart blockage

Neurologic System

Tremors or unexplained shaking
Burning or stabbing sensations in the body
Fatigue, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Weakness, peripheral neuropathy or partial paralysis
Pressure in the head
Numbness in body, tingling, pinpricks
Poor balance, dizziness, difficulty walking
Increased motion sickness
Lightheadedness, wooziness

Psychological well-being

Mood swings, irritability, bi-polar disorder
Unusual depression
Disorientation (getting or feeling lost)
Feeling as if you are losing your mind
Over-emotional reactions, crying easily
Too much sleep, or insomnia
Difficulty falling or staying asleep
Narcolepsy, sleep apnea
Panic attacks, anxiety

Mental Capability

Memory loss (short or long term)
Confusion, difficulty in thinking
Difficulty with concentration or reading
Going to the wrong place
Speech difficulty (slurred or slow)
Stammering speech
Forgetting how to perform simple tasks

Reproduction and Sexuality

Loss of sex drive
Sexual dysfunction
Unexplained menstral pain, irregularity
Unexplained breast pain, discharge
Testicular or pelvic pain

General Well-being

Unexplained weight gain, loss
Extreme fatigue
Swollen glands/lymph nodes
Unexplained fevers (high or low grade)
Continual infections (sinus, kidney, eye, etc.)
Symptoms seem to change, come and go
Pain migrates (moves) to different body parts
Early on, experienced a "flu-like" illness, after which you have not since felt well.
Low body temperature
Allergies/Chemical sensitivities
Increased effect from alcohol and possible worse hangover

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 Post subject: Re: Co-infection symptoms & Lyme symptoms
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:15 pm 
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Symptoms of Lyme, Co-infections and Viral infections: from Dr. Burrascano's Guidelines page 26 : ... _17_08.pdf

CLASSIC LYME (Bb infection)-
· Gradual onset of initial (viral-like) symptoms- this often makes it difficult to pinpoint when the infection
· Multisystem- almost always, in disseminated stages, involves more than one part or system (i.e. joint
pain plus cognitive dysfunction).
· Migratory- first a knee will hurt, then over time this may lessen and the elbow or shoulder acts up, and
later the joints calm down but headaches worsen.
· Stiff joints and loud joint crepitus, especially the neck (“Lyme shrug”).
· Headaches are often nuchal and associated with stiff, painful and crepitant neck.
· Afternoon fevers, often unnoticed- most Lyme patients have subnormal temperatures in the AM but rise
to 99+ by early to mid-afternoon. No obvious sweats.
· Tiredness and limited stamina- often is a strong need to rest or even nap in the afternoon, especially
when the flushed face and elevated temperature appears.
· 4-week cycles- Bb activity, and thus symptoms, wax and wane in a cycle that repeats roughly every
four weeks. This cycle, if clear, can guide your treatments.
· Slow response to treatment, with an initial symptom flare in most (“Herxheimer-like reaction”) then
improvement over weeks, punctuated by the monthly symptom flares. Likewise, if treatment is ended
too soon, an initial period of well-being will gradually, over a few weeks, be replaced by a return of
· EM rash in 25% to 50%

· Gradual onset of initial illness.
· CNS symptoms are out of proportion to the musculoskeletal ones- if a patient has no or minimal joint
complaints but is severely encephalopathic (see below), then think of Bartonella/BLO.
· Obvious signs of CNS irritability can include muscle twitches, tremors, insomnia, seizures, agitation,
anxiety, severe mood swings, outbursts and antisocial behavior.
· GI involvement may present as gastritis or abdominal pain (mesenteric adenitis).
· Sore soles, especially in the morning.
· Tender sub-cutaneous nodules along the extremities, especially outer thigh, shins, and occasionally
along the triceps.
· Occasional lymphadenopathy.
· Morning fevers, usually around 99. Occasionally light sweats are noted.
· Elevated vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) occurs in a minority, but the degree of elevation
correlates with activity of the infection and may be used to monitor treatment.
· Rapid response to treatment changes- often symptoms improve within days after antibiotics are begun,
but relapses occur also within days if medication is withdrawn early.
· May have papular or linear red rashes (like stretch marks that do not always follow skin planes),
especially in those with GI involvement.

· Rapid onset of initial illness, often with sudden onset of high fever, severe headaches, sweats and
fatigue, thus it is easy to know when infection began.
· Obvious sweats, usually at night, but can be day sweats as well.
· Air hunger, need to sigh and take a deep breath; dry cough without apparent reason.
· Headaches can be severe - dull, global (involves the whole head, described like the head is in a vise).
· Fatigue is prominent, does not clear with rest, and is made worse with exercise.
· Mental dullness and slowing of reactions and responses.
· Dizziness- more like a tippy feeling, and not vertigo or purely orthostasis.
· Symptoms cycle rapidly, with flares every four to six days.
· Hypercoaguable states are often associated with Babesia infections.
· Rarely, splenomegaly
· Very severe Lyme Disease can be a clue to Babesia infection, as it will make Lyme symptoms worse
and Lyme treatments less effective.

· Rapid onset of initial illness with fever, headache, prostration.
· Headaches are sharp, knife-like, and often behind the eyes.
· Muscle pain, not joint pain, and can be mild or severe.
· Low WBC count, elevated liver enzymes, and (rarely) inclusions seen in the WBCs.
· Rarely see diffuse vasculitic rash, including palms and soles (less than 10%).
· Rapid response to treatment.

· Persistent fatigue, made worse with exercise.
· Sore throat, lymphadenopathy, and other viral-like complaints.
· May see elevated liver enzymes and low WBC counts.
· Autonomic dysfunction.

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 Post subject: Re: Co-infection symptoms & Lyme symptoms
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Note: These symptoms can differ depending on what coast you live on. East and West coast infections may be different strains and not be exactly the same nationwide.

Note: This is an East Coast questionnaire, it is thought that symptoms may vary from so many different strains on different coasts


Common symptoms of bartonellosis include:

___Fatigue (often with agitation, unlike Lyme disease, which is more exhaustion)

___Low grade fevers, especially morning and/or late afternoon, often associated with feelings of "coming down with the flu or a virus"

___Sweats, often morning or late afternoon (sometimes at night) - often described as "thick" or "sticky" in nature

___Headaches, especially frontal (often confused with sinus) or on top of head

___Eye symptoms including episodes of blurred vision, red eyes, dry eyes

___Ringing in the ears (tinnitus) and sometimes hearing problems (decreased or even increased sensitivity - so-called hyperacusis)

___Sore throats (recurring)

___Swollen glands, especially neck and under arms

___Anxiety and worry attacks; others perceive as "very anxious"

___Episodes of confusion and disorientation that are usually transient (and very scary); often can be seizure-like in nature

___Poor sleep (especially difficulty falling asleep); poor sleep quality

___Joint pain and stiffness (often both Left and Right sides as opposed to Lyme which is often on one side only with pain and stiffness that changes locations)

___Muscle pains especially the calves; may be twitching and cramping also

___Foot pain, more in the morning involving the heels or soles of the feet (sometimes misdiagnosed as plantar fasciitis)

___Nerve irritation symptoms which can be described as burning, vibrating, numb, shooting, etc.

___Tremors and/or muscle twitching

___Heart palpitations and strange chest pains

___Episodes of breathlessness

___Strange rashes recurring on the body often, red stretch marks, and peculiar tender lumps and nodules along the sides of the legs or arms, spider veins

___Gastrointestinal symptoms, abdominal pain and acid reflux

___Shin bone pain and tenderness

Bartonella is a bacterium that causes illness, the most commonly known of which is a disease called "Cat Scratch Fever." Thousands of known cases of Bartonella occur in the U.S. each Year, with the vast majority of known cases due to bites from fleas that infest cats or infected dogs (may also occur directly from bites and scratches from infected dogs or cats). Bartonella can also be transmitted by ticks that transmit Lyme Disease. In fact, in a study published recently, deer ticks from New Jersey had a higher prevalence of Bartonella organisms than of Lyme organisms.

It is unclear whether the organism that we see transmitted along with Lyme disease is actually a Bartonella species (such as B. henselae or B. quintana) or is "Bartonella-Like Organism" (BLO) that is yet to be fully identified. While BLO has features similar to organisms in the Bartonella family, it also has features slimiar to the Mycoplasma and the Francisella (causes tularemia) families.



As with other co-infections, there is a lot of overlap of symptoms between Lyme disease and Babesiosis. An accumulation of the following signs and symptoms probably warrant testing and/or treatment of Babesiosis:


___Fatigue and often excessive sleepiness

___High fever at onset of illness

___Night sweats that are often drenching and profuse

___Severe muscle pains, especially the large muscles of the legs (quads, buttocks, etc.)

___Neurological symptoms often described as "dizzy, tipsy, and spaciness," similar to a sensation of "floating" or "walking off the top of a mountain onto a cloud"


___Episodes of breathlessness, "air hunger", and/or cough

___Decreased appetite and/or nausea

___Spleen and/or liver enlargement

___Abnormal labs (low white blood count, low platelet counts, mild elevation of liver enzymes, and elevated sed rate)

___Headaches (migraine-like, persistent, and especially involving the back of the head and upper neck areas)

___Joint pain (more common with Lyme and Bartonella)

___anxiety/panic (more common with Bartonella)

___Lymph gland swelling (more common with Bartonella and Lyme)

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