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 Post subject: An epidemic of vitamin D deficiency
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:17 pm 
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Although this study/article is primarily about Vitamin D deficiency symptoms. Please do not take Vitamin D without first having a blood test to confirm you are deficient. It is imperative to have both tests: 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (Calcidiol, Calcifidiol); 1,25 dihydroxy-vitamin D (Calcitriol). Vitamin A, E, K & D are fat soluble and can build up in the body causing problems, unlike water soluble vitamins that normally can be taken daily without a worry of over doing. If you are one of the few who have "excessive" vitamin D that can be dangerous and cause symptoms as well. Balance is essential to over all well being and health regarding this vitamin. Please check with your doctor regarding any new supplementation, especially fat soluble vitamins such as D. Also if you are hypoglycemic

Have you been tested for Vitamin D levels, if not, get tested now!

According to Dr. Mercola, your vitamin D level should NEVER be below 32 ng/ml. Any levels below 20 ng/ml are considered serious deficiency states and will increase your risk of breast and prostate cancer and autoimmune Disease's like MS and rheumatoid arthritis and many, many, many other problems related to chronic pain, the immune system and much more.

Watch Dr. Mercola's video regarding vitamin D here: ... t-one.aspx

If deficient, prescribed doses are as high as 50,000 IU per week but can be considered toxic by some Md's. Other Md's believe taking a daily supplement over time will bring levels to normal again. Vitamin D is fat soluble, therefore stores in the body and can get dangerously high. 50,000 IU is considered (in many articles regarding this subject) to be the human toxic level.

Treating carefully, likely will help ease many of our symptoms if we are found to be deficient. Ways to correct deficiencies are to take vitamin D supplements or eat food that contain D, eggs, meat fats and that is about it (there are only a few, milk is not one of the best surprisingly but good for calcium) the best, sit in the sun daily for 20 minutes, exposing at least face, arms and hands. (Make sure you aren't on Doxy or other Tetra's!)

MS patients try to keep their levels around 100 (normal is 32 -100). It also is assumed to obtain this "normal" range that most participants were likely deficient, which could mean even higher D is needed than the "normal" range given on lab test results. I've been told a minimum of 60 is absolutely necessary.

If you are proven to be deficient through blood testing, treating with 2,500 IU per day of vitamin D for about three months (have regular blood testing to see if your levels are coming up) should correct this deficiency. Always use Vitamin D that ingredients list it as D-3 not D-2 as D-3 is of better quality and easier to absorb. (Please check w/your Md before taking this supplement)

Vitamin D deficiencies can also mean celiac disease and anyone found deficient (which likely is most of us!) needs a simple celiac panel, to make sure you don't have Celiac disease. Celiac disease, simply put is a gluten intolerance and you are not absorbing nutrients correctly from food.

Vitamin D is responsible for regulating all of the following and a deficiency in vitamin D can be easily misdiagnosed if overlooked and should be a regular part of blood testing (smart LLMD's recommend/order blood testing for Vitamin D) it certainly is likely to worsen any/all the symptoms of Lyme patients, here is why:

Vitamin D deficiencies can cause the following and have a snowball effect creating other problems including but not limited to:

Calcium deficiency (D is needed to absorb calcium - creating even more issues if you are calcium deficient)
Celiac disease (gluten intolerance)
Autoimmune diseases
Chronic pain
Chronic fatigue
Osteomalacia (softening of bones)
Heart disease
**Parathyroid problems (this has many symptoms of it's own see below)
Immune function
Weight loss
Irregular Heartbeat
Cognitive function issues
Muscle spasms
Joint pain
Nervous system disorders

Sunlight for 20 minutes to the face arms, hands each day is the best way to get your vitamin D, very few foods have vitamin D they include cod liver oil, egg yolks, butter, and oily fish. Some foods, including milk and breakfast cereals, are also fortified with low levels synthetic vitamin D.

Not getting enough sunlight for many especially during winter months results in a disorder called SAD - Seasonal Affect Disorder and is directly related to deficiencies of UV light - vitamin D perhaps? Deficiencies cause depression and other symptoms of this disorder, ironically or not.

In one of the videos at this link, the LLMD says one of the most important things in Lyme treatment is to first check for vitamin d deficiencies - ... .php?t=662

Being deficient and correcting the problem may help with symptom relief.

Vitamin D may play a role in the prevention and/or treatment of the following health conditions in addition to those listed above:

• Atherosclerosis
• Heart Disease
• Hypertension
• Breast cancer
• Colon cancer
• Prostate cancer
• Skin cancer
• Kidney disease
• Liver disease
• Multiple sclerosis
• Muscle Weakness (Myopathy)
• Chronic Pain
• Osteoporosis
• Osteoarthritis
• Periodontal disease
• Preeclampsia
• Psoriasis
• Tinnitus
• Mental Illness
• Depression
• Epilepsy
• Diabetes
• Obesity
• Ulcerative colitis
• Inflammatory bowel disease

Links of interest:

Vitamin deficiency may be deadly: ... be_deadly/

Vitamin D could save your life, end pain and prevent MS: ... your-life/

Lack of Vitamin D linked to pain: ... ed-to-pain

Vitamin D may prevent heart attack: ... SN09472209

If you have LD or other diseases / disorders ask your doctor to be tested for this common deficiency, unless you spend more than 20 minutes per day in the sun, eat egg yolks on a regular basis or take cod liver oil or eat animal fats, you are likely deficient.

It is somewhat common for some LLMD's to order this test, so maybe you have been tested and don't know it. I never dreamed I was dangerously deficient, but coincendently out of the blue asked my LLMD to test me. I am thankful he did.

A thought on Detoxing

One thing to consider regarding detoxing. An ILAD's LLMD I talked with does not believe in any kind of detoxing, I thought this was unusual, but now I may understand better why. He said, "Detoxing doesn't work. Anyway, your body has the capability to detox toxins, if detoxing really worked, it would remove all the good (vitamins etc. essential to good health) as well as the bad, since there is no way to specifically target toxin detoxification".

Makes one think, assuming detoxing works, is it possible to have detoxed important vitamins such as D - right out of us.


***Symptoms of Parathyroid Disease*****
Loss of energy. Don't feel like doing much. Tired all the time.
Just don't feel well; don't quite feel normal. Hard to explain but just feel kind of bad.
Feel old. Don't have the interest in things that you used to.
Can't concentrate, or can't keep your concentration like in the past.
Osteoporosis and Osteopenia.
Bones hurt; typically it's bones in the legs and arms but can be most bones.
Don't sleep like you used to. Wake up in middle of night. Trouble getting to sleep.
Tired during the day and frequently feel like you want a nap.
Spouse claims you are more irritable and harder to get along with (cranky).
Forget simple things that you used to remember very easily.
Gastric acid reflux; heartburn; GERD.
Decrease in sex drive.
Thinning hair (predominately in older females).
Kidney Stones.
High Blood Pressure (sometimes mild, sometimes quite severe; up and down a lot).
Recurrent Headaches (usually patients under the age of 40).
Heart Palpitations (arrhythmias). Typically atrial arrhythmias.

Most people with hyperparathyroidism will have 4 - 6 of these symptoms. Some will have lots of them. A few people will say they don't have any... but after an operation they will often say otherwise. 95% of people with hyperparathyroidism will have 3 or more of these symptoms. In general, the longer you have hyperparathyroidism, the more symptoms you will develop
More on Vit D from Healthline


Vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin that helps the body absorb calcium. Fat-soluble vitamins are stored in the body's fatty tissue.


In addition to helping the body absorb calcium, vitamin D also helps the body keep the right amount of calcium and phosphorus in the blood.

Food Sources

Vitamin D is found in the following foods:

Dairy products
Fortified milk (all milk in the U.S. is fortified with vitamin D)
Fortified cereals

Side Effects

Vitamin D deficiency can lead to osteoporosis in adults or rickets in children.

Too much vitamin D can make the intestines absorb too much calcium. This may cause high levels of calcium in the blood. High blood calcium can lead to calcium deposits in soft tissues such as the heart and lungs. This can reduce their ability to function.

Kidney stones, vomiting, and muscle weakness may also occur if you have too much vitamin D.


The best way to get the daily requirement of essential vitamins is to eat a balanced diet that contains a variety of foods from the food guide pyramid.

Vitamin D is also known as the "sunshine vitamin" because the body manufactures the vitamin after being exposed to sunshine. Ten to 15 minutes of sunshine 3 times weekly is enough to produce the body's requirement of vitamin D.

Specific recommendations for each vitamin depend on age, gender, and other factors (such as pregnancy). In general, those over age 50 need slighly higher amounts of vitamin D than younger persons.

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 Post subject: Re: An epidemic of vitamin D deficiency
PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:45 pm 
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** Adding my original Vitamin D post from the other thread to here. Most of it will be repeated info, maybe some new. **

It can cause different things from bones weakening to schizophrenia.

In adults, prolonged deficiency of vitamin D (calciferol) can lead to osteomalacia, while lesser deficiency (insufficiency) is associated with various non-specific symptoms.

Vitamin D2 and D3 are found in sterols in eggs, milk, and fish that have been exposed to UV irridation. A sterol is basically the cholesterol found in egg yolk and animal fats/oils. The cholesterol in eggs is GOOD to consume, contrary to traditional belief.

The normal concentration of 25-hydroxy-vitamin D in the blood serum is 25-50 ng/ml. When vitamin D deficiency continues for many months in growing children, the disease commonly referred to as rickets will occur. A prolonged deficiency of the vitamin in adults results in osteomalacia. Both diseases involve defects in bones.


Osteomalacia is softening of the bones, caused by not having enough vitamin D, or by problems with the metabolism (breakdown and use) of this vitamin. These softer bones have a normal amount of collagen that gives the bones its structure, but they are lacking in calcium.

Osteomalacia can also suggest there is a problem with the synthesis of Vitamin D in your body, as it says. Exposure to UV light with increase synthesis dramatically and allow your body to fully absorb the vitamin. Worst case scenario, there is a metabolic issue.

Vitamin D is a fat-soluble vitamin, meaning it is able to be dissolved in fat. While some vitamin D is supplied by the diet, most of it is made in the body. To make vitamin D, cholesterol, a sterol that is widely distributed in animal tissues and occurs in the yolk of eggs, as well as in various oils and fats, is necessary. Once cholesterol is available in the body, a slight alteration in the cholesterol molecule occurs, with one change taking place in the skin. This alteration requires the energy of sunlight (or ultraviolet light). Vitamin D deficiency, as well as rickets and osteomalacia, tends to occur in persons who do not get enough sunlight and who fail to eat foods that are rich in vitamin D.

Once consumed, or made in the body, vitamin D is further altered to produce a hormone called 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D (1,25-diOH-D). The conversion of vitamin D to 1,25-diOH-D does not occur in the skin, but in the liver and kidney. First, vitamin D is converted to 25-OH-D in the liver; it then enters the bloodstream, where it is taken-up by the kidneys. At this point, it is converted to 1,25-diOH-D. Therefore, the manufacture of 1,25-diOH-D requires the participation of various organs of the body--the liver, kidney, and skin.

The purpose of 1,25-diOH-D in the body is to keep the concentration of calcium at a constant level in the bloodstream. The maintenance of calcium at a constant level is absolutely required for human life to exist, since dissolved calcium is required for nerves and muscles to work. One of the ways in which 1,25-diOH-D accomplishes this mission is by stimulating the absorption of dietary calcium by the intestines.

The sequence of events that can lead to vitamin D deficiency, then to bone disease, is as follows: a lack of vitamin D in the body creates an inability to manufacture 1,25-diOH-D, which results in decreased absorption of dietary calcium and increased loss of calcium in the feces. When this happens, the bones are affected. Vitamin D deficiency results in a lack of bone mineralization (calcification) in growing persons, or in an increased demineralization (decalcification) of bone in adults.

This suggests that Vitamin D deficiency can cause calcium deficiencies/synthesis problems, issues in the muscle/nerve cell and structure.

Vitamin D deficiency can cause quite a few problems depending on where the main issue lies (synthesis, metabolism, UV deficiency, etc).

So how do you correct the deficiency?

Well, any time you're deficient in any macronutrient or vitamin it's best to get it from food. But there isn't many foods that contain vitamin D so there is a few things you need to do.

First start with food:

Foods that are good sources of vitamin D include cod liver oil, egg yolks, butter, and oily fish. Some foods, including milk and breakfast cereals, are also fortified with synthetic vitamin D.

Also, atleast 20 minutes of UV exposure per day is recommended.

An alternative to sunlight is the use of an ultraviolet (UV) lamp. When using UV lamps, the eyes must be covered to protect them against damage. Many types of sunglasses allow UV light to pass through, so only those that are opaque to UV light should be used. Attempts to acquire sunlight through glass windows fail to help the body make vitamin D. This is because UV light does not pass through window glass.

As far as supplementing goes:

Osteomalacia is treated by eating 2,500 IU per day of vitamin D for about three months. Measurements of 25-OH-D, calcium, and parathyroid hormone should be obtained after the treatment period to make sure the therapy did, in fact, result in normal blood values.

Care must be taken in treating vitamin D deficiency, since high doses of vitamin D are toxic and can result in the permanent deposit of minerals in the heart, lungs, and kidneys. Symptoms of toxicity are nausea, vomiting, pain in joints, and lack of interest in eating food. In adults, vitamin D toxicity occurs with eating 50,000 IU or more per day.

The result:

Vitamin D treatment results in the return of bone mineralization to a normal rate, the correction of low plasma calcium levels, the prevention of seizures, and a recovery from bone pain.

Hopefully some of this info will help you or anyone else who has the same issue.

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 Post subject: Re: An epidemic of vitamin D deficiency
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Vitamin D is probably a lot more important than we have previously thought. To be honest, it very well might be the next fish oil. As a hormone that regulates calcium, phosphorus, bone metabolism, and neuromuscular function, it's clear that this vitamin has broad-reaching effects. Beyond the classic bone implications, recent research has demonstrated an association between Vitamin D deficiency and an increased risk of heart disease and stroke — and those who get more sun exposure actually recover from cancer faster than those with limited sun exposure. There's evidence to suggest a link between Vitamin D deficiency and multiple sclerosis, the flu, diabetes, and various neurological disorders.

The problem is that it's estimated that one-third to one-half of (otherwise healthy) middle-aged and elderly individuals in the US are deficient (defined as below 15 ng/ml, typically). The amount of Vitamin D produced in the body is markedly higher in warmer climates than you get in the cold white North (or South, if any of you readers happen to be on vacation in Antarctica).

Knowing how it impacts the aforementioned factors, it's not a stretch to say that Vitamin D can have implications for us muscleheads both in terms of performance and health — and we're talking beyond just weak bones. Siraj Ahmed was actually my first Boston client when I moved back here in 2006. From his name and the video below, you can tell that Siraj is of Indian descent. Combine his skin tone with his geographic location and the fact that he's stuck in an office more than he'd probably like, and you'll discover quite quickly why he's a candidate for Vitamin D deficiency.

When we first started working together, Siraj was 158 pounds and dealing with elbow, neck, and lower back issues. He couldn't bench press pain-free, and deadlifting was definitely out of the question. The interesting thing was that none of these issues were "true" pathologies; it was more along the lines of general aches that were a nuisance when he tried to push it in the weight room.

We integrated some appropriate mobility/activation work and also implemented strategic deloads more effectively — and his symptoms started to resolve. It wasn't until later that he told me his doctor had found that he was Vitamin D deficient on a blood test, and he'd been prescribed 50,000 IU once a week for four weeks. While he got some benefit from the Vitamin D alone, it wasn't until he integrated it with an appropriate exercise regimen that the pain really dissipated.

Approximately one year later, Siraj is pain-free at a body weight of 178 pounds — and he pulled 420 a few weeks ago:

I'm not saying that Vitamin D is a cure-all, but it's definitely something to:

A) Make sure you're consuming in adequate amounts.

B) Make sure you're getting via sunlight.

C) Look into if you have generalized pain and weakness, especially in multiple joints.

As an interesting little note, it's believed that aside from eating plenty of fatty fish, it's virtually impossible to get sufficient Vitamin D from your diet without supplementation of some sort. Sounds kind of like fish oil, doesn't it?

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